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cliff negotiations. >> the president seems to be walking us ever so slowly towards the cliff. we have said we are committed to staying here. we are going to stay here right up until christmas eve. throughout the time and period before the new year. >> now, their warning followed a 15 minute phone call between john boehner and the president described as tense by the news team. a characterization, the speaker himself disputed. >> i remain the most optimistic person in this town, but we have serious differences. the president and i have frank conversation about just how far apart we are. >> democratic sources tell us the phone call fell apart because the latest counter proposal included an extension of tax cuts for the wealthy, a permanent extension. another that was disputed. the press secretary reiterated that is a non-starter for the president. >> they refused to accept the fundamental fact that higher income americans, millionaires and the billionaires, the top two% are not going to have tax cuts extended. the president made that clear. >> now with negotiations stuck dare we
cliff negotiations. >> the president seems to be walking us ever so slowly towards the cliff. we have said we are committed to staying here. we are going to stay here right up until christmas eve. throughout the time and period before the new year. >> now, their warning followed a 15 minute phone call between john boehner and the president described as tense by the news team. a characterization, the speaker himself disputed. >> i remain the most optimistic person in this town,...
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host: armstong williams, how do you see the fiscal cliff negotiations going? where do you see them going? guest: there is no doubt that the president signaled yesterday in his conversation to the speaker of the house, and no matter what the drumbeats of the politicians and activists may say to the media, there is no question he is committed to resolving this issue. you cannot resolve this issue bringing people back to certainty or to help business owners understand the liabilities they will face on january 1, 2013. there is no question that the president and the speaker will come to a compromise. back during the days of former president lyndon baines johnson and the senator leader at the time, some of the issues that are going on -- i will never forget when dirkson was talking to the president, and the president said we should meet this evening. the senator said i think we have reached our wit's end. johnson left the white house and met with the senator to show his commitment and said this is what we have to do. as a result of that meeting, they came to some d
host: armstong williams, how do you see the fiscal cliff negotiations going? where do you see them going? guest: there is no doubt that the president signaled yesterday in his conversation to the speaker of the house, and no matter what the drumbeats of the politicians and activists may say to the media, there is no question he is committed to resolving this issue. you cannot resolve this issue bringing people back to certainty or to help business owners understand the liabilities they will...
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cliff negotiations. president obama has said there will be no deal unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest americ americans. but staunch conservatives don't want any kind of new taxes. that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to an even bigger cliff. i think that the president clearly has staked out a position of nonseriousness. and i think that it's very difficult for the house republicans right now to find any practical way to get his attention. so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins me now. dana, can we expect fire woworkt the meeting this morni
cliff negotiations. president obama has said there will be no deal unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest americ americans. but staunch conservatives don't want any kind of new taxes. that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to an even bigger...
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even in the debt ceiling debate or the fiscal cliff negotiations that neither side will give and they're both being unreasonable. and really not drilling down. the other thing they do is they really go back to newt gingrich and grover norquist. as you've talked about both these things, changing the culture of washington and making compromise impossible. >> here's something really naughty, i think in terms of policy. who can forget back in august not a million years ago when the romney pollster neil newhouse said the following. we're not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact checkers. think about that. fact checkers meaning facts. >> right. >> i was on the show with you the other night. we talked about the quotes of the year. 47%. >> that's a good one. >> i thought this should be the top two of three. that showed their view towards reality. it was an arrogance that we can say whatever we want to say. and i think in years past, this is what's changed. campaigns would not be so brazen. if caught in a lie they maybe feel some shame. here's neil newhouse telling reporters that we don'
even in the debt ceiling debate or the fiscal cliff negotiations that neither side will give and they're both being unreasonable. and really not drilling down. the other thing they do is they really go back to newt gingrich and grover norquist. as you've talked about both these things, changing the culture of washington and making compromise impossible. >> here's something really naughty, i think in terms of policy. who can forget back in august not a million years ago when the romney...
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>> if you take them at their word, it sounds like the president is anxious to go over the fiscal cliff, and he leaves very little room for republicans to negotiate with him with a 1.7 trillion dollar tax increase, 50 billion more in stimulus spending, and absolutely no expenditure reductions that are going to take place right now. i mean, from the point of view of republicans, you're going to get more spending decreases if you go over the fiscal cliff than if you deal with president obama. >> greta: well, it appears to many in the city that it's politico check mate for the president. if we go over the fiscal cliff, what it means is the taxes will go up on the wealthy, the big earners. it also goes up on the middle class. i assume the middle class will look to the rawp republicans foe fact that their taxes come up so political check mate. >> i'm not so sure. president obama could avoid that very simply by putting maybe two or three to one expenditure reductions on the table for revenue increases, something like sim responsibl simpson bow. he has a formula given to him by a commission he
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cliff negotiations, as the end of the year approaches, but there are new questions this weekend about what will happen to the u.s. economy if washington fails to come up with the solution. and joining me now, angela mcglowan, a fox news political analyst and doug cornell, a former spokesperson for the democratic congressional campaign committee and a democratic strategist. great to see both of you. >> thank you, good to be with you. >> doug, you first, president obama and his weekly address this weekend says that democrats have some wiggle room on what they're willing to give to get a deal done. what are they willing to give? >> well, first of all, remember that as part of the budget control act the president signed into law about a trillion dollars in cuts and right now the president's priority is to pass a middle class tax cut and benefit 97% of small businesses, and that's the first priority and then, obviously, second part is to deal with the fiscal cliff and he's put entitle and spending cuts on the table and i think really, the issue here is whether republicans are going to be o
cliff negotiations, as the end of the year approaches, but there are new questions this weekend about what will happen to the u.s. economy if washington fails to come up with the solution. and joining me now, angela mcglowan, a fox news political analyst and doug cornell, a former spokesperson for the democratic congressional campaign committee and a democratic strategist. great to see both of you. >> thank you, good to be with you. >> doug, you first, president obama and his weekly...
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cliff negotiations. again, once again, they're going to hold the process that the american people did not much enjoy. and they're going to do that to try to get something very unpopular, which is taking away a lot of people's medicare benefits. ak they're only going to see more intransigent work stream. more out of touch of where the american people are. governor, carl rove was with bill o'riley. watch this. >> i think what the speaker is trying to get across is at this point, the republicans are pretty much in disarray. they can't compete with the organized democratic machine. that's why romney lost. >> they are in disarray. they doept have a clue of what to do. they're not in any way consistent with what they want. they want taxes raised on the rich. it spurred 23.5 million new jobs in six years. americans get that stuff. they've got to be voiced and sustained. by the way, all of this is political calculation. crystal is right. they're worried about the primary. good lord, have some guts and do what's
cliff negotiations. again, once again, they're going to hold the process that the american people did not much enjoy. and they're going to do that to try to get something very unpopular, which is taking away a lot of people's medicare benefits. ak they're only going to see more intransigent work stream. more out of touch of where the american people are. governor, carl rove was with bill o'riley. watch this. >> i think what the speaker is trying to get across is at this point, the...
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and common theme is that president obama has the upper hand in these fiscal cliff negotiations and everything else going on right now, precisably because the perceptions of the party right now n fairness to the republican party, tamron this is what almost always happens, a party loses a presidential election, the numbers go down. ask respondents in a word or phrase their perception of the republican parties and with the republican party, 65% of the comes were negative, includes more than half of republicans. even republicans were criticizing their own party and that, to me, is very interesting. kind of shows you where the political landscape is right now. >> show you where the viewers might be looking at, may be looking at the screen and looking at this bad, weak, neg tivgs uncomp prom migz, need to work together, broken, out of touch when describing the gop. the word cloud for the dems, for the people, working class, still confused, misguided, liberal, left, doing a good job. >> the one that stood out know the republicans is uncompromising, you my the fiscal cliff debate. the republican part
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we'll bring our viewers live what he has to say about the fiscal cliff negotiations. whether or not we can read a little bit what he has to say where we're at in the negotiations of the maybe no ski trip to mars included in that. >> reporter: you doubt it. jenna: doug, thank you very much. we appreciate it. rick: the president's second term has not even started yet but some political pundits are already looking ahead to 2016. what they're saying about hillary clinton's chances four years from now. >>> rare december tornados slamming the southern u.s., leaving behind a trail of destruction, devastating communities. we'll take you to the hardest hit areas straight ahead. >> just heard a big bam. thought the world was coming to an end. >> it was real scary. everything was just flying around, just tossed around. >> the tornado just came, bouncing from house to house. rick: some extreme weather to tell you about out of central florida. a tornado tearing through the town of edgewater, damaging about 40 mobile homes in a community there. no serious injuries were reported but
we'll bring our viewers live what he has to say about the fiscal cliff negotiations. whether or not we can read a little bit what he has to say where we're at in the negotiations of the maybe no ski trip to mars included in that. >> reporter: you doubt it. jenna: doug, thank you very much. we appreciate it. rick: the president's second term has not even started yet but some political pundits are already looking ahead to 2016. what they're saying about hillary clinton's chances four years...
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cliff negotiations. congressman peter welch is a democrat from vermont and deputy chief whip and he joins us now. good afternoon, sir. >> good afternoon. >> the president has said that he wants to raise revenues, and so very specifically he wants tax rates on the rich to go up. speaker boehner says he wants to cut spending. but then he won't specify the cuts he'd like. why is that? >> he's got a tough negotiating situation. he's got to put on a show for his base and his base ran for spending cuts and for tax cuts. they know revenues are going to go up. speaker ba eer boehner knows th president is going to get his way so he's putting on a show. >> in the new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll when asked if these leaders should compromise to get a deal, 70% of democrats said yes while just 59% of republicans agreed. and now i'd like you to listen to minority leader pelosi today discussing changes to eligibility for medicare, something republicans say should be on the table. take a listen. >> don't even th
cliff negotiations. congressman peter welch is a democrat from vermont and deputy chief whip and he joins us now. good afternoon, sir. >> good afternoon. >> the president has said that he wants to raise revenues, and so very specifically he wants tax rates on the rich to go up. speaker boehner says he wants to cut spending. but then he won't specify the cuts he'd like. why is that? >> he's got a tough negotiating situation. he's got to put on a show for his base and his base...
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the intelligence suggested he was in implement danger. >>> it seems fiscal cliff negotiations are playing chicken. neither side willing to back down but are we starting to see cracks. texas senator kale -- kay bailey hutchins joins us. thank you for your time. >> thank you, shannon. >> i want to ask about the fact we've seen republicans, including your senate colleagues, coburn and corker say they may be willing to go ahead on raising taxes on upper income earners. >> i think many republicans are feeling pressured and really up against a wall. no one wants the tax rates to go up, which is what would happen if we don't do anything. i think that the president did win the election and he's certainly pressing that button. i don't think people like it. i just -- i don't think we ought to raise taxes on anyone, but i just hope that the president will in some way maybe not make it so stark and will allow us to do something on the spending side. because if we just raise the taxes and don't do anything about the spending, i think it will be a terrible signal we just can't get our act together and
the intelligence suggested he was in implement danger. >>> it seems fiscal cliff negotiations are playing chicken. neither side willing to back down but are we starting to see cracks. texas senator kale -- kay bailey hutchins joins us. thank you for your time. >> thank you, shannon. >> i want to ask about the fact we've seen republicans, including your senate colleagues, coburn and corker say they may be willing to go ahead on raising taxes on upper income earners. >>...
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we're awaiting for speaker boehner and update on talks and negotiations for the fiscal cliff. as soon as he steps to the microphone we'll bring you there. we'll be back with more "happening now". jon: speaker of the house john boehner beginning his weekly news update. >> the president still has not made an offer that meets those two standards but republicans have. while the president promised the american people a balanced approach hess proposals have been anything but. he wants far more in tax hikes than in spending cuts. instead of beginning to solve our debt problem he wants new stimulus spending and the ability to raise the debt limit whenever he wants without any cuts or reforms. that's clear the president is just not serious about cutting spending, but spending is the problem. how big of a problem? look at this chart put together by paul ryan and the budget committee. this line is the current baseline for revenue. here if the president got everything he wanted, over $1.4 trillion in taxes, this is what that would represent. but if you look at the spending problem, you se
we're awaiting for speaker boehner and update on talks and negotiations for the fiscal cliff. as soon as he steps to the microphone we'll bring you there. we'll be back with more "happening now". jon: speaker of the house john boehner beginning his weekly news update. >> the president still has not made an offer that meets those two standards but republicans have. while the president promised the american people a balanced approach hess proposals have been anything but. he wants...
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bill: negotiations on that fiscal cliff and his first one-on-one television interview since reelection president obama says he will only agree to a deal that raises tax rates on top earners. >> we are not going to simply cut our way to prosperity or cut our way out of this deficit problem. we are going to need more revenues. in order to do that that start with higher rates for the folk at the top. the reasonien, the reason i say that is not to punish success or go after folk just because they are wealthy. it's a simple proposition that you can't raise enough revenue and if you don't raise enough revenue through closing loopholes abductions, it's going to be middle class families that make up the difference. bill: john boehner will speak later this hour. we'll see how he responds to that comment. if washington can't get a deep, automatic tax increases and massive spending cuts do take effect. martha: west virginia senator joe manchin, a democrat discussing the fiscal cliff, social security within medicare. he believes they must be run more efficiently. >> last year the office of budget
bill: negotiations on that fiscal cliff and his first one-on-one television interview since reelection president obama says he will only agree to a deal that raises tax rates on top earners. >> we are not going to simply cut our way to prosperity or cut our way out of this deficit problem. we are going to need more revenues. in order to do that that start with higher rates for the folk at the top. the reasonien, the reason i say that is not to punish success or go after folk just because...
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>>> there are new development in the fiscal cliff negotiations. cnn has just learned that house republican leaders have sent the white house a counteroffer on tax and entitlement reform. let's bring in our capitol hill senior correspondent dana bash who's got the details. what have we learned? >> we learned that, as you said, the republicans have sent to the white house an offer that they describe as something that is significant with regard to tax and entitlement reform. of course, those are the two tranches that we're talking about here. they are being very -- holding their cards very close to the vest in terms of what specifics these are but apparently it's a counteroffer to something the white house sent to them yesterday. we don't know the details. this is good news for both sides. republicans saying earlier that the white house has to give them more spending cuts. but this is really key because the first thing they have to do, wolf, is get those top line numbers. they are not talking specifics, what kind of tax rates, how much to do. they ar
>>> there are new development in the fiscal cliff negotiations. cnn has just learned that house republican leaders have sent the white house a counteroffer on tax and entitlement reform. let's bring in our capitol hill senior correspondent dana bash who's got the details. what have we learned? >> we learned that, as you said, the republicans have sent to the white house an offer that they describe as something that is significant with regard to tax and entitlement reform. of...
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this follows late night movement on fiscal cliff negotiations. we are standing by. >>> it was supposed to be funny. a tennis player mocking superstar serena williams but many are calling it racist. did it go too far? t "the newsroom" starts right now. >>> hello, everyone. i'm don lemon. happening right now, we'll get you live to washington in capitol hill. house speaker john boehner expected to speak right there from that podium at any moment. he had a call with the president last night after republicans sent a new proposal over to the white house to avoid the fiscal cliff. the house speaker. let's listen. >> i feel fine, i just sound a little foggy, that's all. as of today, the president's plan to avert the fiscal cliff still does not meet the two standards that i laid out the day after the election. his plan does not fulfill his promise to bring a balanced approach to solving this problem. it's mainly tax hikes. and his plan does not begin to solve our debt crisis. it actually increases spending. our plan meets the standards, it cuts spending a
this follows late night movement on fiscal cliff negotiations. we are standing by. >>> it was supposed to be funny. a tennis player mocking superstar serena williams but many are calling it racist. did it go too far? t "the newsroom" starts right now. >>> hello, everyone. i'm don lemon. happening right now, we'll get you live to washington in capitol hill. house speaker john boehner expected to speak right there from that podium at any moment. he had a call with the...
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cliff negotiations. while there are outlines of what a possible compromise could look like, liken stead of raising tax rates to 39.6% which was the clinton-era rate, maybe go to 37% and close some loopholes and deductions. there are still not indications that house republicans are willing to do that. and on the spending side, which really if you look at the media across the board, there hasn't been a lot of focus on it at all. the spending side. and what spending cuts are on the table. we haven't heard anything specific about what is in addition to what's been out there from the very beginning. jon: right because the republicans claim the country doesn't have an income or a revenue problem it has a spending problem, and that's where republicans say the bulk of the savings, or the rescue plan for this -- this budget is going to come. >> reporter: sure, i mean you have some proposals that are out there, for example, means testing, medicare, social security. you have adjustments to consumer price index with
cliff negotiations. while there are outlines of what a possible compromise could look like, liken stead of raising tax rates to 39.6% which was the clinton-era rate, maybe go to 37% and close some loopholes and deductions. there are still not indications that house republicans are willing to do that. and on the spending side, which really if you look at the media across the board, there hasn't been a lot of focus on it at all. the spending side. and what spending cuts are on the table. we...
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cliff negotiations. she has come in for us on a saturday afternoon. we do appreciate your time. >> good to be here. >> thanks for being here. there's a possibility of some major changes to entitlement spending by the end of these fiscal cliff negotiations. it looks like democratic leaders are right now warming to the idea of raising medicare premiums for wealthier people. you in the past have been somewhat outspoken in terms of your opposition to the idea of altering entitlements in a dramatic way. are you changing your tune? >> no. however, i will say this. we have taken seriously the fact that we have an obligation to our seniors, that medicare has worked for millions, almost 450 million americans, seniors mostly but disabled. and we want to start the discussion about medicare with the promise we are going to keep medicare and find a way to contain the rate of growth in costs under medicare and all health care been helpful. >> sure. >> but we'll meet that obligation to our seniors. that's where i think
cliff negotiations. she has come in for us on a saturday afternoon. we do appreciate your time. >> good to be here. >> thanks for being here. there's a possibility of some major changes to entitlement spending by the end of these fiscal cliff negotiations. it looks like democratic leaders are right now warming to the idea of raising medicare premiums for wealthier people. you in the past have been somewhat outspoken in terms of your opposition to the idea of altering entitlements in...
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. >>> first rule of the fiscal cliff talks, don't talk about the fiscal cliff talk. both president obama and speaker boehner are sticking to their mary tore yum to not talk about how negotiations are going, which most analysts say is a good sign. according to the walg street journal, people directly involved say they've taken a recent shift in days with the staff and leaders on both sides are getting more serious. not sure why they weren't in the first place. >>> yesterday in michigan the president said he was open to spending cuts but held firm to raising taxes on the wealthiest americans. >> what you need is a package that keeps tacks where they are for middle-class families, we make some tough spending cuts on things we don't need, and then we ask the wealthiest americans to pay a splietly higher tax rate and that's a sprins pl i won't compromise on because i'm not going to have a situation where the wealthiest among us, including folks like me, get to keep all of our tax breaks and then we're asking students to pay higher student loans. >> ah, but republican sena
. >>> first rule of the fiscal cliff talks, don't talk about the fiscal cliff talk. both president obama and speaker boehner are sticking to their mary tore yum to not talk about how negotiations are going, which most analysts say is a good sign. according to the walg street journal, people directly involved say they've taken a recent shift in days with the staff and leaders on both sides are getting more serious. not sure why they weren't in the first place. >>> yesterday in...
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take a dip in right now to the negotiations over the fiscal cliff. boehner and obama see how it's going. can we see it? i'm just kidding. that is ukraine parliament handling things the way, probably the way it should be done. that's it. bob, you're up. >> bob: i thought that was the republican house caucus. >> greg: unions. >> bob: of course. [ laughter ] there is a guy by the name of joe luken in minnesota. he owns legisry stores and a big market chain that wanted to buy his stores when he put them up for sale and he decided instead of doing that he would turn them over, all of them to the employees, 400 of them. and kio plan because without them he never would have been successful. congratulate him for doing that, particularly in the christmas season. wonderful gesture on your part, joe, and your employees will carry on to make more success out of the stores. nice thing to do. >> eric: gregory? >> greg: first, i'll read the horoscope. sometimes it's smart to let your rivals win and this could be one of those occasions. untie the armenian man from t
take a dip in right now to the negotiations over the fiscal cliff. boehner and obama see how it's going. can we see it? i'm just kidding. that is ukraine parliament handling things the way, probably the way it should be done. that's it. bob, you're up. >> bob: i thought that was the republican house caucus. >> greg: unions. >> bob: of course. [ laughter ] there is a guy by the name of joe luken in minnesota. he owns legisry stores and a big market chain that wanted to buy his...
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what do you tell john boehner about negotiations to avert the fiscal cliff. >> the public spoke with this election. the republicans lost. and that means that they need to be the ones to come to the table, and they need to demonstrate that they can compromise. i don't think there is any question that this president has attempted over and over and over again to come to the table to compromise, you know, cut $1.6 trillion, you know, out of the budget cuts when the republicans held these guys up with the debt ceiling debate this last year 2011. for boehner, you know, where i feel he is losing credibility, one is by being, you know, beaten up by eric can'tor, two by refuse to go put up specifics and saying to the president of the united states you need to put up spending cuts. on needs to show leadship. >> without question. without question >> bill: you are right. that was the romney plan. the american people have spoken. they wanted the obama plan. >> his respect and popularity would go through the roof. >> president jim hoffa next. >> this is "the bill press show." [ music ] every day p
what do you tell john boehner about negotiations to avert the fiscal cliff. >> the public spoke with this election. the republicans lost. and that means that they need to be the ones to come to the table, and they need to demonstrate that they can compromise. i don't think there is any question that this president has attempted over and over and over again to come to the table to compromise, you know, cut $1.6 trillion, you know, out of the budget cuts when the republicans held these guys...
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no progress in resolving the fiscal cliff today. i know, you're not surprised by that, but we can report there were, well, some contact between the two principle players in the negotiations if there were negotiations. president obama and speaker john boehner actually talked to one another. it was on the telephone. it was not the face-to-face meeting the speaker says is necessary, but it was the first time that the two men have spoken in a week. for the latest on these stalled negotiations, we turn to fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry forhe report. >> trying to lay blame for stalled buet talks on republicans, president obama today wrateted up pressure on boehner. >> nobody wants this done more than me. >> for the first time, plan for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cff warning business executives, the economy could take another hit if republicans cide to extend just to middle class tax cuts to avoid the cliff for now and come back next year with more leverage to tie spending cuts and medicare reform t
no progress in resolving the fiscal cliff today. i know, you're not surprised by that, but we can report there were, well, some contact between the two principle players in the negotiations if there were negotiations. president obama and speaker john boehner actually talked to one another. it was on the telephone. it was not the face-to-face meeting the speaker says is necessary, but it was the first time that the two men have spoken in a week. for the latest on these stalled negotiations, we...
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this fiscal cliff negotiation seems doomed. am i being pessimistic? >> we're basically spending like europeans, but being taxed like americans. at some point you got to decide which you want. basically american government spending now is getting close to norwegian levels. and at that point, you can't have american tax levels. >> brian: what is their level? >> they spend 46% of gdp and people pay that. that's reflected in their taxes. america is basically borrowing $188 million every hour in washington. seven days a week, 24 hours a day, thanksgiving, ramadan, whatever. that gap cannot be closed by sticking to to the rich. >> brian: don't you think the president realizes that or do you think he fully realizes that in. >> oh, yeah, he does. this is the cunning thing. he's going to blame it on the rich, blame it on the republicans. but right now if you're just an average working guy with an average income, your taxes are going to go up because for him -- pour for the president, it's not about the economy. it's about government. it's about the size of gov
this fiscal cliff negotiation seems doomed. am i being pessimistic? >> we're basically spending like europeans, but being taxed like americans. at some point you got to decide which you want. basically american government spending now is getting close to norwegian levels. and at that point, you can't have american tax levels. >> brian: what is their level? >> they spend 46% of gdp and people pay that. that's reflected in their taxes. america is basically borrowing $188 million...
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. >>> we are wrapping up a week where we heard negotiations on avoiding the so-called fiscal cliff were going no where on capitol hill. each side continues to dig in. but even if the president and house speaker john baner are able to reach a deal, there is no guarantee it would pass the lame duck congress. some say they are not sure they could go along with it. and some democrats might balk as well. everybody agrees that something has to be done, but so far no deal. >> first if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes go up on january 1st. a typical middle class family of four will get a $22 tax hike. that would be bad for families. it would be bad for businesses, and it would drag down our entire economy. >> we must get the national debt under control. tax increases will not solve our $sick teen trillion debt. only economic growth and a reform of entitlement programs will control the debt. >> let's say hello to our political panel. debbie is the former chair of vice president al gore's 2000 campaign in michigan. nice to see you. and chip is a former go
. >>> we are wrapping up a week where we heard negotiations on avoiding the so-called fiscal cliff were going no where on capitol hill. each side continues to dig in. but even if the president and house speaker john baner are able to reach a deal, there is no guarantee it would pass the lame duck congress. some say they are not sure they could go along with it. and some democrats might balk as well. everybody agrees that something has to be done, but so far no deal. >> first if...
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negotiations. >> when you have the negotiations, you have to fill the public space up with images of communications, on what the leaders are standing for. >> reporter: but manly, the democrat, from the president's perspective he says this time is different. >> the president and his team finally came to the result that they can't negotiate with hostage-takers, and learned their lesson from last year. >> the speaker says over and over he is waiting for the president to give him a counter offer, but democrats say they don't expect it to happen until the republicans say they're willing to give at least a little bit on the tax rates for the wealthy. the speaker put out a comment, saying his opposition to raising the rates will not and has not changed. >>> thank you, dana bash. >>> and still ahead, the unique situation, turning them from veterans to citizen leaders in their communities. >>> and we take a look at the war zone, from the families caught between the front lines in syria. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollar
negotiations. >> when you have the negotiations, you have to fill the public space up with images of communications, on what the leaders are standing for. >> reporter: but manly, the democrat, from the president's perspective he says this time is different. >> the president and his team finally came to the result that they can't negotiate with hostage-takers, and learned their lesson from last year. >> the speaker says over and over he is waiting for the president to...
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cliff which would mean tax hikes for almost all americans but also severe cuts as well. they are debating that publicly as well as privately. i want to talk more about the rebel group that we had mention before in syria, that is now designated a new terrorist organization, cnn's hala gorani joining us atlanta. hala, first of all, you've got the syrian rebels, they're there fighting al assad's government. now the u.s. government, state department, steps in and says, a small faction of this group is considered a terrorist organization. what does that mean on the ground in syria for the rebel forces? >> well, it's hard to tell if it's going to mean anything, really. because what we're hearing now, uniformly from rebel groups on the ground after the designation by the united states of the nusra front as a foreign terrorist organization, look you can't not arm us, not finance us, and at the same time tell us not to rely on the best sort of armed and financed subgroup in the anti-assad fight. so rebel groups are saying you're putting us in a difficult position. they're having
cliff which would mean tax hikes for almost all americans but also severe cuts as well. they are debating that publicly as well as privately. i want to talk more about the rebel group that we had mention before in syria, that is now designated a new terrorist organization, cnn's hala gorani joining us atlanta. hala, first of all, you've got the syrian rebels, they're there fighting al assad's government. now the u.s. government, state department, steps in and says, a small faction of this group...
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cliff talks, so how will the negotiations now affect the party's efforts to rebrand itself after losing the presidential election? roger simon is politico's chief political columnist and joins me now. great to see you again. thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> they're going in against real headwinds. the president having 38% support in his positions. john boehner, only 19%. more than three-quarters of those polled agree with the president's bargaining position about upper income -- >> the republican party has a lot of problems. i mean, three big ones. your poll asks people to pick words to describe the republican party. they picked bad, broken, weak and lost. those aren't the greatest words. >> that's not a bumper sticker you want. >> the second is the hand that they're playing. if they get what they want, they get no tax increases for millionaires and billion aurs and cuts to medicare, medicaid, and social security. is it a great land to play for 2014? thirdly, they just don't have a leader. i mean, who is the leader of the republican party? i guess john boehner comes the closest,
cliff talks, so how will the negotiations now affect the party's efforts to rebrand itself after losing the presidential election? roger simon is politico's chief political columnist and joins me now. great to see you again. thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> they're going in against real headwinds. the president having 38% support in his positions. john boehner, only 19%. more than three-quarters of those polled agree with the president's bargaining position about upper income...
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first we want to start with the fiscal cliff. how close do you think we are to negotiations? i mean it's getting a little bit ridiculous almost. we start looking at whether people are talking, not making any press statements, how their press releases look and whether they're meeting at all and how the vibe is in the capitol. all of these things are silly to look at but that's kind of what we have at this point. >> good morning, soledad, thanks fo for having me on. obviously it's hard to know. i had a chance last week along with a number of other governors, democrats and republicans, to meet with the president and separately with speaker boehner and separately with leader reid to talk about the fiscal cliff from the perspective of governors. and we were very grateful they gave us an opportunity, they invited us to have a seat at the table as they are considering different options. but one of the things i've seen certainly since i'm in asia as well as back home is when you talk to business leaders, they're really looking for some certainty here. that's the key issue, because we
first we want to start with the fiscal cliff. how close do you think we are to negotiations? i mean it's getting a little bit ridiculous almost. we start looking at whether people are talking, not making any press statements, how their press releases look and whether they're meeting at all and how the vibe is in the capitol. all of these things are silly to look at but that's kind of what we have at this point. >> good morning, soledad, thanks fo for having me on. obviously it's hard to...
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yep, the president and speaker boehner hold a fiscal cliff phone call, but there is still one big problem. the white house doesn't seem to want to budge! they want a tax and spend. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling, i will not play that game. >> gretchen: so michelle malkin is going to stop by and she says the president needs to read the constitution? she's right around the corner. >> steve: and this experiment shows what happens when pot heads meet potholes. so is our safety at risk behind the wheel now that marijuana is legal in two states? recreational marijuana. a live report straight ahead. >> brian: plus, rare personal look inside the life and mind of one of the most feared men ever to play heavyweight boxing for a sport. a former champion. mike tyson joins us live and open up about his marriage. startling revelation about his drug use and will he or will he not be in "hangover 3". that's the penetrating question my son needs to know. "fox & friends" starts now. >> you'll shoot your eye out, kid. merry christmas. ho, ho, ho. >>
yep, the president and speaker boehner hold a fiscal cliff phone call, but there is still one big problem. the white house doesn't seem to want to budge! they want a tax and spend. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling, i will not play that game. >> gretchen: so michelle malkin is going to stop by and she says the president needs to read the constitution? she's right around the corner. >> steve: and this experiment shows what...
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. >> gregg: negotiations to avoid going over the so-called fiscal cliff draging on and on with little to show for it. in a weekly address, president obama saying he will not budge on his call to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> if we are serious about protecting middle-class families we're going ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that is one principle i won't compromise on. >> gregg: republicans sticking to their guns saying raising taxes is not the answer. here is florida senator marco rubio giving the g.o.p. weekly address. >> we must get the national debt under control. tax increases will not solve our $16 trillion debt. only economic growth and reform and entitlement programs will help the debt. >> gregg: time is running out. they have to go into effect january 1st is a budget deal is not reached before then but going over the cliff will it be that bad and rein in the spending and protect our children's future. let's talk about it with jamie weinstein, senior editor of daily caller. first. i looked it up the third debate president obama boldly promised, i'll quote
. >> gregg: negotiations to avoid going over the so-called fiscal cliff draging on and on with little to show for it. in a weekly address, president obama saying he will not budge on his call to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> if we are serious about protecting middle-class families we're going ask the wealthiest americans to pay higher tax rates. that is one principle i won't compromise on. >> gregg: republicans sticking to their guns saying raising taxes is not the answer....
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but looked at strictly economically, forget the politics here, forget fiscal cliff, forget negotiations. you just look economically, raise taxes, you don't get all the money you think you are going to bring in. >> brian: real quick, kevin mccarthy, one of the young guns, was on "metropolitan the press" and said, good news. revenues are up 10%. that's because we seem to be turning around economically. here is the bad news, spending is up 16%. why? he's trying to explain to a very reluctant david gregory, why should we consider raising tax when is clearly the revenue is up, but the spending is up higher? >> the president wants to raise tax rates on people making more than 250,000. he thinks that will bring in $82 billion in one year. the experience of california and other countries is that you will not bring in $82 billion. you bring in less. >> brian: sadly, it's just about getting a trophy and saying i told you i would do it. >> that's the politics of it. >> brian: varney and company might want to pick this up at 9:20 eastern time. >> always take your advice. >> brian: i'll put it in wr
but looked at strictly economically, forget the politics here, forget fiscal cliff, forget negotiations. you just look economically, raise taxes, you don't get all the money you think you are going to bring in. >> brian: real quick, kevin mccarthy, one of the young guns, was on "metropolitan the press" and said, good news. revenues are up 10%. that's because we seem to be turning around economically. here is the bad news, spending is up 16%. why? he's trying to explain to a very...
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cliff talk. what surprised us off the record behind the scenes, democrats and republicans agree they should be doing a lot more than they're talking about as part of the current negotiations. they said if you did more on tax reform and particularly on the corporate side and more on social security as far as limiting the growth of that program, more on medicare, if you did something to exploit this oil and gas boom that we're seeing in north dakota, texas and across the country, if you did more to get high skilled immigrants into town, you could not only have an economic recovery but an economic boom. there's a lot of agreement off the record on this, but that politicians on both sides are scared to go out there and be the first to say, hey, let's do these big things that could have an appreciable effect on the economy. >> steve, do you agree with that assessment? what are the big things that need to be done? >> i totally agree. the thing that's depressing about the fiscal cliff plan, we will chan
cliff talk. what surprised us off the record behind the scenes, democrats and republicans agree they should be doing a lot more than they're talking about as part of the current negotiations. they said if you did more on tax reform and particularly on the corporate side and more on social security as far as limiting the growth of that program, more on medicare, if you did something to exploit this oil and gas boom that we're seeing in north dakota, texas and across the country, if you did more...
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republican leaders calling on obama to sit down for a face-to-face negotiation on the fiscal cliff. this is just weeks ago before the deadline. right now, as you know, there is still no deal. those sites are still hundreds of billions of dollars apart. mike emanuel has more. reporter: hello, jenna. speaker john boehner says the republicans made a good-faith effort to avert a fiscal crisis. they say essentially this is now time for the president to be getting involved to respond to the republican offering. he claims that the republican offer was balanced, and because republicans cannot just sit there and negotiate with themselves. here's more from the top republican leaders a short time ago. >> i will be here and i will be available at any moment. so, the president and get serious about solving this problem. reporter: they asked the president sit down so we can stop wasteful spending in washington. on the democratic side, there is emphasis that congress should pass the middle-class tax cuts for people earning up to $250,000 per year. to give those people economic certainty. here is m
republican leaders calling on obama to sit down for a face-to-face negotiation on the fiscal cliff. this is just weeks ago before the deadline. right now, as you know, there is still no deal. those sites are still hundreds of billions of dollars apart. mike emanuel has more. reporter: hello, jenna. speaker john boehner says the republicans made a good-faith effort to avert a fiscal crisis. they say essentially this is now time for the president to be getting involved to respond to the...
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. >>> president obama on the road today trying to sell his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. mr. obama speaks to workers at an engine factory near detroit this afternoon. yesterday the president and house speaker john boehner met at the white house for a round of intense negotiations. there are new signs republicans are willing to go along with the president on hypertaxigher taxee wealthy. >> we have spent ourselves into a hole. will i accept a tax increase as part of a deal to actually solve our problem, yes. >> senator coburn says in return, republicans would get significant reform of entitlement programs. >> at least the two are sort of together, speaking, without cameras around. >> right. >> so they can get work done. >> the difference between the last meeting, they're not coming out and sort of saying, well, they're not budging. they're not budging. they sort of cam out and said we are not going to talk about it. a good sign too. >> i hope so. sort of riff di >>> tension is building in egypt. morsi ordered the military to keep the peace. thousand gathered outside the preside
. >>> president obama on the road today trying to sell his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. mr. obama speaks to workers at an engine factory near detroit this afternoon. yesterday the president and house speaker john boehner met at the white house for a round of intense negotiations. there are new signs republicans are willing to go along with the president on hypertaxigher taxee wealthy. >> we have spent ourselves into a hole. will i accept a tax increase as part of a deal to...
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the entire program can be found on c-span.org. 8:00 eastern on c-span, negotiations on the fiscal cliff. we'll hear from harry reid and mitch mcconnell. c-span3, the impact of hurricnae ane sandy. a bipartisan group of senators spoke to reporters today about the civil war in syria and the potential use of force against the regime of bashar al-assad. >> good afternoon. i'm here with my colleagues from the senate, senator lieberman, senator gramm. -- graham. we are deeply disturbed by reports that bashar al-assad may have lionized -- weaponized some of his stores of chemical and biological agents and prepare them for use in aerial bombs. these reports also suggest that his forces are awaiting orders to use these weapons. if true, these reports may mean that the united states and our allies are facing the prospect of an eminent use of weapons of mass destruction and syria, and this may be the last warning we get. time for talking about what to do may now be coming to a close, and we may instead be left with an awful and it's very difficult decision. whether to continue on the sidelines and
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in debt by the end of obama's term and we're barely over the fiscal cliff with or without going over the fiscal cliff, so my suggestion to mr. boehner, let them go. let president obama, let him have two recessions on two terms, that's the only way that they'll cut a time of spending if they're forced to do it. >> you mentioned the number, 5-8 billion dollars, new congress militia numbers out. 4.8 billion dollars a day so far, now, this is for not this year, this is for fiscal year 2013 which began in october. carney, the white house press spokesperson says a number of things about this, take a listen. >> the debt reduction in and of itself is not the goal here. the reason to get our fiscal house in order and the reason to pass a deficit reduction package that's balanced and allows for economic growth and job creation is to put our economy on a sustainable fiscal path. which again, in itself produces positive economic benefits and growth and jobs. >> eric: that's ridiculous, what that man just said, the reason for the discussions is not to cut the deficit, it's to put our economy on a
in debt by the end of obama's term and we're barely over the fiscal cliff with or without going over the fiscal cliff, so my suggestion to mr. boehner, let them go. let president obama, let him have two recessions on two terms, that's the only way that they'll cut a time of spending if they're forced to do it. >> you mentioned the number, 5-8 billion dollars, new congress militia numbers out. 4.8 billion dollars a day so far, now, this is for not this year, this is for fiscal year 2013...